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➦ Phil Collins: Face Value, Virgin CDV 2185, First UK Nimbus CD pressing - Variant A


Images of the CD (click image to enlarge)

Face Value, spine front rear booklet
booklet booklet
label matrix

General notes

Label Virgin Records IFPI Mastering SID (details)
Not present
Distributor Virgin Records Ltd. IFPI Mould SID (details) Not present
Reference CDV 2185 Matrix numbers CDV 2185 · NIMBUS ENGLAND
Country of manufacture UK Price codes (details) Not present
Country of the release UK
Label Code (LC) (details) Not present
Year of release 1984-1985 SPARS Codes (details) Not present
CD manufacturer Nimbus Right society (details) Not present
CD variation Yes Barcode Not present
Rear insert (print) Not present Booklet/print For more details check below
Packaging Jewel case with two ball stoppers Booklet 8 page booklet with lyrics

Release notes

This is the first UK "Face Value" domestic pressing CD and this entry is for variant A, which was released earlier than variant B. The disc is manufactured by Nimbus plant and the CD was released by Virgin Records Ltd. The catalogue number of this release is CDV 2185.

The disc is silver with a red text label. Variant B, as well as later copies, have slightly different colour coating. There is no country of manufacture present on disc. The label is very simple in this release. There are no SPARS codes nor other signifiers present on disc. The Compact Disc logo is in large and "STEREO" is printed underneath. The matrix numbers of this variant are CDV 2185 · NIMBUS ENGLAND. Note that matrix string contains one single dot.

The matrix numbers note:

The early Nimbus discs have "Nimbus England" in the matrix ring. Later pressings often had "Mastered by Nimbus" in the matrix area. These were released much later than discs with "Nimbus England". There is also one small dot present in the matrix ring. In my opinion, only the first pressing discs of this CD where released with one to three dots in the matrix ring. Later reissues (from 1986-1987) have more dots. I would also say that mentioned dots represents use of a given mastering/glass master.

Some examples:
  • One dot = first glass master created and use to manufacture of a given disc
  • Two dots = second glass master created (for a various reasons) and use to manufacture of a given disc
  • Three dots = third glass master created (for a various reasons) and use to manufacture of a given disc
  • Four and five dots = probably the last glass master discs created to manufacture of a given disc

The first UK Nimbus CDs of "Face Value" were released without a barcode on rear insert. The release year would be sometime in between late 1984 and early 1985.

Please also not that inserts where printed in the UK. However, the front insert have West German printing notes. That simply means the inserts where taken out of the West German CD release and modified for UK release.

Insert

I should also mention that first UK Nimbus pressing CDs of "Face Value" were released with a smooth-sided jewel case with two ball (round) stoppers. Later copies were supplied with ribbed-sided jewel case. Of course, this is not the rule, but I always seen Nimbus pressing CDs, with one dot in the matrix, having a smooth-sided jewel case. I believe this is how these CDs were released originally.

jewel case edge
Jewel case side edge difference

The first UK Nimbus pressings of "Face Value" were released only in the UK. These discs were not manufactured in a huge numbers. Bear in mind that Nimbus plant (launched in the United Kingdom in August, 1984) hasn't pressed a large orders until middle 1985, when the Compact Disc format really start booming on the UK market. 

top corner

Please note that there is a minor difference in booklet in between two variants. If you look closely on top right corner, of the last page booklet, you'll not see anything in variant A. Variant B, however, has Virgin catalogue number (CDV 2185) printed on top. This is not present in the first pressing CDs. Also, rear tray card has a print error that has never been corrected. The copyright line, near the bottom, is printed like "© 19 1983" which is simply a misprint.

Nimbus disc label note:

I think it is very important that any holder of early Nimbus CDs should be consider a special care of these discs. A large number of early, most from 1984 and early 1985, Nimbus pressed CDs had often suffer from a "sticky label" problem. What is it means though?

Well, It means that due to a manufacturing error, as well as an incorrect storage, the top surface of the CD label became "sticky" over the years. That said, the CD easy collect dust and fingerprints. If your CD suffer from the issue, it is a very important to leave it as it is. An attempt of cleaning the CD, with a soft cloth or a water may damage your disc by peel of the protective layer. The CDs from this entry are also affected.

I would say this CD is not common. As I stated above, these CDs has not been manufactured in large quantities. Also, early Nimbus discs are prone to top coating damage, due to a manufacturing error, so not many discs survived since 1984. This CD need searching, but the purchase price will be very low.

Disc variation

There is also another variant of this CD. For more information, please check variant B entry.

Rarity rating

★  ★  ★  ★  ☆ 

★ ★ ★ ★ ★  ➠ the CD is extremely hard to find
★ ★ ★ ★ ☆  ➠ the CD is hard to find and present a challenge
★ ★ ★ ☆ ☆  ➠ the CD is not common and require searching
★ ★ ☆ ☆ ☆  ➠ the CD is relatively common
★ ☆ ☆ ☆ ☆  ➠ the CD is very easy to find
Please be advised that the rarity rating is based only on my experience and may vary from others opinion. Please also consider that the CD rarity is changing. Some CD releases became more or less available over the years.